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Source: Waal, it all started with my search for info on the State of Georgia's House Bill 1630 [aka Georgia Computer Systems Protection Act - a misnomer if ever there was one] My search took place at AltaVista and I quickly followed the first link turned up to an "Internet Police" page at http://www.gahouse.com/docs/whatsnew/parsons.htm A link on that page led me to TeleRead Home Page where a stanza about your being "bullied on the 'Net" offerred me a chance to visit these pages dedicated to the recent lawsuit involving Jeff Pulver and the owners of DigiPhone(c)
Jeff, I think you been duped into accepting that BullShit(c) decision in Texas. By all appearances you had NO WAY of knowing or reason to assume that the software you recieved was in fact copyright protected. I'm taking at face value that you did an ascii search within the file for indicators of ownership or copyrights as this is a most common way of marking binary files. You relate that the aforementioned software was only available publicly for a matter of hours and you certainly were prompt in removing that availability once requested to do so. Camelot should be paying the attorney fees in this most blatant of harassment suits. Good Luck in the future. I'm sorry I can't help at this time with the Defense Fund as I am currently unemployed and quite possibly soon to be homeless if I don't recieve judgement in my favor in my own legal battle for unemployment benefits. froggy
Masked Frog <drfrog@loop.com>
Glendale, CA USA - Tue Jul 2 0:15:17 1996

Source: Waal, it all started with my search for info on the State of Georgia's House Bill 1630 [aka Georgia Computer Systems Protection Act - a misnomer if ever there was one] My search took place at AltaVista and I quickly followed the first link turned up to an "Internet Police" page at www.gahouse.com/docs/whatsnew/parsons.htm A link on that page led me to TeleRead Home page where a stanza about your being "bullied on the 'Net" offerred me a chance to visit these pages dedicated to the recent lawsuit involving Jeff Pulver and the owners of DigiPhone(c)
Jeff, I think you been duped into accepting that BullShit(c) decision in Texas. By all appearances you had NO WAY of knowing or reason to assume that the software you recieved was in fact copyright protected. I'm taking at face value that you did an ascii search within the file for indicators of ownership or copyrights as this is a most common way of marking binary files. You relate that the aforementioned software was only available publicly for a matter of hours and you certainly were prompt in removing that availability once requested to do so. Camelot should be paying the attorney fees in this most blatant of harassment suits. Good Luck in the future. I'm sorry I can't help at this time with the Defense Fund as I am currently unemployed and quite possibly soon to be homeless if I don't recieve judgement in my favor in my own legal battle for unemployment benefits. froggy
Masked Frog <drfrog@loop.com>
Glendale, CA USA - Tue Jul 2 0:11:05 1996

Source: Internet magazine
If you need help, drop me a line.
Greg Schellenberg <schellenberg_greg@jpmorgan.com>
NY, NY USA - Tue May 14 9:20:27 1996

Source: Internet world Magazine
That's typical, your product sucks. Someone makes a mistake so using your lawyer you hang the poor sucker telling the truth. I would contribute to your defense fund, if & only if two things were listed... Your costs and Precent recovered toward your goal of 100%. I don't think anyone should profit from this.
Michael T. Garlick <slime@alpha.delta.edu>
Saginaw, mi USA - Wed May 8 16:15:18 1996

Source: Web Page
Camelot corporation was suing jeff?,Not to worry if their legal department works like their software.... well you know the rest! :-). Congrats dude!
Pablo Lewin <pablotwa@pacificnet.net>
Glendora, ca USA - Tue Apr 30 1:50:32 1996

Source: Jeff's page, via the vonyes-digest list.
It's a shame the plaintiff wasn't required to produce a working Digiphone on the court's computer...you know, to show that it does work?
Cedric Brent Kelly <bkelly@odo.elan.af.mil>
Edwards, AFB, CA USA - Thu Apr 18 13:13:11 1996

Source: Youir website.
WOW!! What a crock of sh_t! I can't believe those idiots at Camelot couldn't settle the matter less legalistically. What a waste of time & $ for both parties-- it was obviously an "honest mistake". Sorry I can't help w/$-- I'm still in the midde of a nasty lawsuit myself: DIVORCE!. Oh well, life goes on. Love what you're doing; love to chat with you some time. My toll free at work is 800-597-PACK. And of course there's always Iphone-- I've yet to have a decent full duplex conversation. P.S. Sorry about the previous criticisms re: bad links, misspelings, etc. I had no idea what you were going through. Hope I hear from you.
Manuel Pérez-Leiva <perezleiva@msn.com>
Miami, FL USA - Tue Apr 9 13:17:55 1996

Source: On your Defense Page Website! And TechBabble!
I feel, after reading all the Documents associated with this case that , The Plaintiff "Camelot Corp" is absolutely attacking Defendent "Jeff Pulver" Strictly based on his poor review of their software. Mr. Pulver is not liable for software uploaded on his system, and without sufficient interagation on the file in question, how is anyone enitity to know that the software is copyright Camelot Corp, or the Trade Secret of Such. I am glad all has worked out for mr . pulver, and I express my simpathy to him ,as I feel this Corporation has damaged there reputation emensely by pushing this issue in such a way as they did. Good Luck in the Future ! Sincerely, Peter Meister President C4I Technologies (World Wide Internet Solutions) http://www.c4itech.com
Peter Meister <peterm@c4itech.com>
Washington, DC USA - Thu Apr 4 9:17:50 1996

Source: Pulver site + Email circular
Glad it's over! Please ack my contribution sent to Lynda NY (§10 cash - I suggested a credit card a/c be opened and the suggestion *was* ack'd) and I'll send some more if needed - don't wanna waste if didn't get there (airmail...)
Rex Bailey <rex.bailey@ping.be>
1560 HOEILAART, Belgium - Tue Apr 2 1:12:23 1996

Source:
A victory for common sense. Well done Jeff you are an example to us all. BTW Firecrest, the part owned Camelot sister in London went down 50% on the AIM last week. I think Danny has bigger problems on his plate right now....
Alex balfour <mysore@dircon.co.uk>
London, UK - Sun Mar 31 17:09:19 1996

Source: iphone
hey, we asked to leave jeff alone.. camelot left him alone and how !!
rik moonen <rik.moonen@technopol.be>
brussels, belgium - Fri Mar 29 16:57:35 1996

Source: IPhone List
Congratulations, Jeff! This is excellent news. An amazingly quick decision/settlement.
Miles Lott <milos@insync.net>
Houston, TX USA - Fri Mar 29 8:05:48 1996

Source:
I HOPE YOU MAY BE ABLE TO CONTINUE YOUR WORK AND PROVIDE THE INTERNET COMMUNITY WITH ANOTHER GOOD THINGS, CONGRATULATIONS!
ARTURO DARBEL <darbel@mail.internet.com.mx>
MEXICO CITY, DF MEXICO - Thu Mar 28 12:02:10 1996

Source: Netguide Magazine
I think that this is one of the biggest lines of BS, that Camelot Corp. could ever come up with. If this is publishing, then are all of us with Web pagers Authors, why aren't we in the author biographies. I'm fully taking the side of Jeff Pulver on this issue.
Joshua Kapellen <kape0005@gold.tc.umn.edu>
Mpls., MN USA - Wed Mar 27 13:02:33 1996

Source:
DigiPhone are just bad loosers.
Orjan Timan <otiman@cap.se>
Norrkoping, Sweden - Sun Mar 24 13:29:51 1996

Source: I'm on the mailing-list.
My E-mail address has changed, could you please redirect my mail to 'atila.mert@tip.nl'. Thank you, Jeff...hang on there....they can't get you!!!!
Atila Mert <atila.mert@tip.nl>
Eindhoven, NB Netherlands - Wed Mar 20 14:16:59 1996

Source: Web
Extremely disturbed by what I have read about the case however I am glad that there are people will\ing to take these risks in order to protect our freedoms on the net. Thanks
Dick Williams <dcwilliams@premier.net>
Baton Rouge, LA USA - Wed Mar 20 9:04:07 1996

Source: INTERNET
Be sure and call "the man" yourself. CONTACT: Danny Wettreich chairman and chief executive officer, Camelot, 214-733-3005
Stealth <stealth@spyderwebb.com>
Sactown, CA USA - Sun Mar 17 13:23:17 1996

Source: INTERNET
flame those boneheads at 3rd Planet Software mailto:3pp@planeteers.com
Stealth <stealth@spyderwebb.com>
Sacramento, CA USA - Sun Mar 17 13:09:57 1996

Source: Internet World April 1996 issue paper zine
be sure and email 3pp@planeteers.com and let them know you're: 1) taking back you copy of DigiPhone and demanding your money 2) letting everyone you know how belligerent Camelot is.
Steve Wiley <swiley@ns.net>
Rocklin, CA USA - Sun Mar 17 12:47:42 1996

Source: Internet World April 1996 issue paper zine
I'm livid. 1st I'm sending money. 2nd I'm wagin my own publicity war. born and raised in Texas - I want you to know all Texans aren't so steer headed.
Steve Wiley <swiley@ns.net>
Rocklin, CA USA - Sun Mar 17 12:43:49 1996

Source: Internet World
Go Jeff!
Dan Plato <plato@en.com>
Solon, OH USA - Sat Mar 16 11:03:37 1996

Source: From a newspaper in sydney
Is this what Democracy is all about ? Keep up the good work Jeff
atul <athapar@fl.net.au>
Sydney, - Thu Mar 14 5:19:03 1996

Source: Internet World
This is just another example of the american legal system....
Robert Young <rbyoung@ix.netcom.com>
Alpharetta, GA USA - Wed Mar 13 18:35:37 1996

Source: I visit Netwatch regularly
These guys don't have a clue. I for one will be mailing my check to jeff today but more importantly I will call,write,email Camelot/ Digiphone and tell them what I think. I would suggest everyone else do the same.
Brent Black <bwblack@ni.net>
La Habra, ca USA - Wed Mar 13 11:29:29 1996

Source: Bloomberg
Hey jeff, Creative labs released their pre beta version of full duplex drivers for the SB16. :)
Mitchell Budwick <mbudwick@cantor.com>
New York, NY USA - Tue Mar 5 15:25:59 1996

Source: Snooping about the FWD home page.
I think this company, CAMELOT, is really cheap for going after Jeff. After all, he did show good faith by removing the offending software from his site and the FWD project is non-profit. CAMELOT is just going to get bad press over this suit. I doubt that anybody up here in CANADA is going to buy their product, were sensitive about those kinds of issues, especially when it has to do with the INTERNET. -GET IT CAMELOT !-
Steven Larcher <lars0708@ele.etsmtl.ca>
Montreal, PQ CANADA - Mon Mar 4 21:27:14 1996

Source: From the VON Email newsletter
As for me, Camelot and any company run by them will receive no purchases from me. Ever. Their is too much GOOD, Functioning, software on the net. I SURE as heck don't want to deal with a company who acts the way they have. In my opinion, Camelot has just written their death ticket.
Bruce Meyer <bmeyer@netside.com>
West Columbia, SC USA - Mon Mar 4 6:46:08 1996

Source: Jeff's mailing list
Go Jeff.. I hope the funds to do not run out before I can get my check there.
Brian Kapnick <Brian@marvin.org>
Chicago, IL USA - Sun Mar 3 11:17:08 1996

Source: e-mail
tell them to get a life and to fuck-off
jerry enea <jej@america.com>
daytona beach, fl USA - Sat Mar 2 19:56:30 1996

Source: FWD Discussion List
Dear Jeff, Good Luck! I hope you will win. The C. guys were just waiting to frame you, and they went on to court because they want some publicity... But I think they only got negative publicity with this. The Free World Dialup will WIN !!!
Joao Paulo <gpsm@telepac.pt>
Funchal, PORTUGAL - Fri Mar 1 9:03:47 1996

Source: I-Phone conversation
Go Jeff! Show them jerks that they can't intimidate you!
Matthew Baker <mbaker@microsrv.com>
Leesburg, VA USA - Thu Feb 29 18:01:51 1996

Source: Jeff's page
It is the usual story of companies who cannot compete on the free market and think they can stop the waves by trying to get the law to stop it.
Anonymous <Anonymous>
Johannesburg, South Africa - Thu Feb 29 14:02:02 1996

Source: Surfing...
I think it's ridiculous when a company that is so eager to bring a product out to the market that has not been tested, and actually wants us to pay for it. They assume that people are so stupid to god-willing rush to the store to buy their product, just because they claim it to be innovative. Their product deserves all the critisms it receives. Greed alone is what causes them to act so stupidly. Those boardroom execs don't deserve to be in this market. One would assume they would take cue from the likes of Netscape, Iphone, Powwow, and Webphone who strive for nothing but quality and perfection in their products. Let us testdrive your products, and if we like it, we'll pay for it. If we find flaws, take it with stride, and handle the critisms. Learn from and correct your mistakes. Instead, they are looking for someone to blames for their stupid mistakes. They have no credibility. I would even bother copying to my PC it if it were even offered to me, let alone pay for it, wasting value disk space. These guys at Camelot better find something else to do. The net is not compatible with such ARROGANCE. Thank God, for the First Amendment.... Camelot's Digiphone is not worth a topic. CoolCD New York
Cool CD <ycdinc@bway.net>
New York, nyNYNY USA - Wed Feb 28 20:37:26 1996

Cool CD <ycdinc@bway.net>
New York, nyNYNY USA - Wed Feb 28 20:27:28 1996

Source: Following the WWD-UP-Project
Dear Jeff, How can a company like C. take such an actio against. But the storm to C. comes back, because others ignore them in future. Other products will be in favour. They damages themselves by going public. I think they have not the right managers there.... Best to you! Fred
Fred Schmidt <t00184@telepac.pt>
Praia do Carvoeiro, Portugal - Sat Feb 24 21:26:55 1996

Source: Looking for free world dialup
Leave Jeff alone
walter jansen <walter@universal.nl>
Arnhem, Holland - Fri Feb 23 16:53:15 1996

Source: Scanning for i-phone information and updates.
After reading the suit filed and comments, I can be counted among all who will choose to never purchase from this company. I also will do my part to tell others.
Steve Hamblin <hamblls@searnet.com>
Danville, KY USA - Thu Feb 22 17:26:06 1996

Source: Looking for a phone client
After reading this, my looking for a phone client will NOT lead me to camelot
Kent M. Beaulaurier <kentb@televar.com>
Grandview, waWA USA - Thu Feb 22 2:45:07 1996

Source: Jeff's Legal Defense Page
I downloaded Digiphone from the company's page, and could never get it to work. While looking for other Net Telephony products I found Jeff's page and was relieved to find that nobody else could get it to work either. I think Jeff has given his honest opinion about the product. I have done the same with friends and relatives, re recommending others not use Digiphone. I have recently read articles about corporate lawyers intimidating individuals who express their opinions, using their freedom of speech in a constitutional way. Camelot obviously doesn't even care if it wins or loses, its objective is to harass Jeff and prevent others from expressing a negative opinion publicly. I am very sorry to see it happen to Jeff, and I hope in the future he has the opportunity to countersue and win treble damages, etc....
Steve Marshall <jmarshal@cris.com>
Charlotte, NC USA - Wed Feb 21 21:00:02 1996

Source:
Good luck You should get yourself published in the Wall Street Journal.
Joe pennington <joe@simplesolution.com>
Portland, OR USA - Tue Feb 20 22:09:26 1996

Source:
does the greediness of the corporate world ever end?.. seems to be limitless from this. Go get them.
Kathleen Joyce <CyberWork@aol.com>
New York, ny USA - Mon Feb 19 23:34:56 1996

Source: Visited his web page.
Perhaps it would be helpful if we (the internet community) knew what other products Camelot manufactured or sold, we could then refuse to do business with them. This seems to be a clear picture of setting someone up to punish them.
David Land <dland@cais.com>
Sterling, VA USA - Mon Feb 19 10:32:07 1996

Source: Net Search for Digiphone
We are searching for out of date references to the IKON Communications site for Digiphone which is listed as http://www.ikon.com/digiphone. IKON Communications is NO LONGER the host for this product. We would appreciate notification of any URLs which incorrectly reference IKON in association with Digiphone. Thank you.
Thomas Barron <barron@netcom.com>
Studio City, CA USA - Sun Feb 18 1:38:35 1996

Source: web site
Add me to the list of your supporters, Jeff. By the way, considering Camelot's current action and the apparent attitude of its predatory legal counsel, I presume everyone listed in this guestbook will be subject to Camelot's next attempt at harassment and suppression. Of course, no one has to worry about receiving any legal notices if Camelot tries to serve them via Digiphone.
paladyn <paladyn@aol.com>
Seaford, NY USA - Sat Feb 17 13:15:44 1996

Source: Mail list
Typical case of surpression of innovation. The SB16 full duplex driver is available in Beta from creative anyway.
Bart J. Smit <bartsmit@cubix.com>
Livingston, UK Scotland - Tue Feb 13 5:08:23 1996

Source: VON and FWD mailing list.
Jeff Pulver has done nothing wrong.
Mike Hammock <cmmh@maxinet.com>
Abilene, TX USA - Mon Feb 12 20:12:55 1996

Source: I had been here before but visited again after subscribing to VON from http://www.novagate.com/~jack/audiovid.html 's home page.
You have my support
David Ramsay <david@iap.net.au>
South Perth, WA Australia - Mon Feb 12 8:34:44 1996

Source: From the iphone mail list notice
From the information that has been made available through this page and on the iphone mail list postings, it sure appears that Camelot has filed a frivilous suit intended, as Jeff suggests, to simply intimidate and harass him. Though I've not tried it, all I've heard is that Camelot has an inferior product. If that's true, then they should spend their money on fixing their code and not in suing an innocent citizen. My personal opinion of Camelot is this: from this point forward I wouldn't buy $10 bills from them if they were selling them for 50 cents. Good luck, Jeff!
John Simmons <jsimmons@bga.com>
Georgetown, TX USA - Sat Feb 10 10:37:13 1996

Source: heard it on Bloomberg
20 hours after the driver is uploaded, Camelot knows about it, or takes legal action. ON THE INTERNET!!!, who the hell knows whats on their Server at any given time. Makes you wonder. Camelot software sucks. IRC is used world over. Go gettem Jeff.
Mitchell Budwick <mbudwick@cantor.com>
New York, NY USA - Fri Feb 9 16:23:25 1996

Source: From Jeff Pulver's fine VON list.
I hope Jeff Pulver will win this case.
Svein Utne <utne@msoft.no>
Trondheim, xx Norway - Fri Feb 9 8:23:46 1996

Source: Email posting to the Iphone Mailing List
If they want to start a lawsuit that is their business. But the business with prohibiting Jeff from posting on the internet is going a bit too far. Jeff if I were you I would actually start a countersuit against them for attempting to prohibit your free right of speach (communication).
Yury German <digitek@panix.com>
Queens, NY USA - Thu Feb 8 22:19:58 1996

Source: from a friend
I'd sure like to be able to contact TWP to let them know that this action on their part can only hurt them. Talk about bad publicity for a new product!! Good luck Jeff.
Geoffrey Gardella <gardella@garnet.berkeley.edu>
Umeå, Sweden - Thu Feb 8 12:17:48 1996

Source: Use Iphone and got on the mailing list
Screw Camelot, they are without a doubt the most paranoid, unstable company in the industry. And will be, the most unemployed professionals in the software industry very soon. Just make sure that you file a countersuit for damages on Pulvers part.
Andrew Benhase <abenhase@tach.net>
Melbourne, Fl USA - Thu Feb 8 1:01:10 1996

Source: Use Iphone and got on the mailing list
Screw Camelot, they are without a doubt the most paranoid, unstable compnay in the industry. And will be, the most unemployed professionals in the software industry. Just make sure that you file a countersuit for damages on Pulvers part.
Andrew Benhase <abenhase@tach.net>
Melbourne, Fl USA - Thu Feb 8 0:57:51 1996

Source: Article in Boardwatch
I hate companys that sue at the drop of a hat. Thats one reason why I have never liked Apple. I'll remember Camal Lot.
Robert Shaver <rshaver@jump.net>
Austin, TX USA - Thu Feb 8 0:51:21 1996

Source: Net Watch Email Notice
Well Jeff, judging from all the posts to this guest book, looks like we should go after DC next! Unfortunately, I'm not surprised. 20 hours on the server, they ask you to remove it, you do so, well... Legal loopholes'll kill ya. I hope the Net community boycotts Camelot and their products, and lets them know how foolish they are. Screw the ones who will likely buy your products, and business will be damn slow. Good luck!
Jason M. LeBlanc <leblanc@lsis.com>
Nashville, TN USA - Wed Feb 7 18:04:13 1996

Source: Surfed in randomly.
I will send a check when I get a payday. I am also going to post this URL on the BBS I administer with a short version of the story and encourage my users to look in. We have to show these folks that this kind of behavior will cost them. mwm
Marc Mercer <words@voicenet.com>
Lambertville, NJ USA - Wed Feb 7 1:04:55 1996

Source: Webwatch
Camelot are being petty. Full duplex drivers are now available for many cards - Soundblaster have them for free download. I fully support you Jeff. You acted in good faith when you were informed of the presence of the driver. Camelot have no cause to be taking this kind of revenge over a bad review for what I hear is a bad product. Please us this in your defense if it is of any use to you. Keep up the good work.
Robin Larder <taipan@firstnethou.com>
Houston, TX USA - Tue Feb 6 16:15:42 1996

Source: Web Search
Gee Jeff removed it when Camelot asked. So whats the problem? I love it. Sue the UPS guy for delivering a package of propriatary info someone sent? Bravo Camelot. Now i know where not to buy my phone client from!
John Palaima <surfer@mit.edu>
Boston, MA USA - Mon Feb 5 21:27:56 1996

Source: Through the internet grapevine
100% behind Jeff. I know Jeff and I know how Jeff works. He has integrity, has always tried to maintain impartiality whilst at the same time promoting promising and effective cutting edge internet products. Bon Chonce, Jeff!
Mike Silva <mikesilva@realbeer.com>
San Diego, CA USA - Mon Feb 5 17:05:12 1996

Source: Internet Marketing Discussion List
I have heard how buggy Digiphone is. I certainly will avoid their product and encourage others to do the same. I hope this is a case of David and Goliath. Seems like their staff legal critters had some time on their hands.
John Peters <corbeau@wwwebnet.com>
Seattle, WA USA - Sun Feb 4 22:34:59 1996

Source: The Internet Marketing Mail list
Camelot sucks. As far as I can acertain, Pulver did nothing wrong and is being wrongfully sued.
Jack Wenger <jwenger@inxpress.net>
Madison, WI USA - Sun Feb 4 22:19:39 1996

Source: On the web
Well, I'm glad I've read about all this. Now I know which internet voice software - Digiphone - to avoid. And as a computer consultant I have the power to influence people's buying decisions, or at least my clients. I'll never recommend Digiphone to anybody and I'll let everybody know about how Camelot operates.
John Horak <jhorak@smartt.com>
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sun Feb 4 4:02:26 1996

Source: Just browsing around looking for more info on VRML. (Ecellent work, BTW).
Bogus. Pulvner didn't know it was a trade secret at the time and did everything he could to make Digiphone's demands possible.
Glenn Sefton <hammer@aloha.net>
Honolulu, HI USA - Sat Feb 3 18:28:04 1996

Source: alt.binaries.sounds.midi
Go get 'm Jeff. This is world of free information !
Rob Graham <robham@iafrica.com>
Durban, South Africa - Sat Feb 3 8:34:00 1996

Source: Netwatch and IPhone mail list
I like the Point-to-Point idea of DigiPhone, but the program itself sucks. I prefer Speak Freely. Anyway, it seems to become a new sport to sue people for everything. I stand fully behind Jeff. I think DigiPhone is committing suicide with that lawsuit, and I would not cry at all if they hit rock bottom at Wall Street and go out of business. They deserve it for doing crap like that. I hope Jeff wins that suit. He has my full support (Can't send money though... :)
Frank Knobbe <FKnobbe@ix.netcom.com>
Murfreesboro, TN USA - Sat Feb 3 0:43:23 1996

Source: I was at your homepage and saw the link
I wish you the best of luck defending this unjust "revenge" lawsuit and I do agree with your rating of Digiphone P.S. Do you know any places where I can get the full duplex driver (just kidding)
Adam Kerr <akerr@islandnet.com>
Victoria, BC Canada - Fri Feb 2 21:27:17 1996

Source: VoN mail list
I'm outraged by the actions of Camelot. It's obvious to anyone with the least amount of common sense that Pulver did nothing wrong, yet all these legal costs are unavoidable. I think a counter-suit is in order.
Jerry Moore <jmoore@vcnet.com>
Moorpark, CA USA - Fri Feb 2 20:15:04 1996

Source: I saw a posting on the: "Internet Marketing Discussion List" ....and I came here to check it out.
Sorry, I cannont contribute $$$$ to your cause but upon reading the information pertaining to this case, I must say you have my full moral support and I hope you win and the Judge has enough common sense to throw this case out. Best Regards, Zargon BTW: the HTML at the bottom of this page is broken. You are missing a (") in the folowing line. View
Steiph Zargon <zargon@zargon.com>
Decatur, GA USA - Fri Feb 2 12:11:56 1996

Source: Saw it while researching Free World Dialup.
3PP (Camelot)'s case appears totally without merit. What proof did they offer of ANY "Trade Secret"/Source Code ever having been here?
Steve C, President, The Ozarks Internet Users' Group <scrutchhf@mail.orion.org, oiug@oznet.com>
Springfield, MO USA - Thu Feb 1 4:27:50 1996

Source: Researching Volcaltec IPO
Camelot is wrong and out to get Jeff. I e-mailed them my thoughts. You must prevail to preserve all of our rights. If you loose we must organize to wage electronic warefare on there vermin. BTW...I am putting a buy order in for 200 shares of VocalTecs IPO on the 5th of Feb...what do you think! Is it another Netscape?
carl cox <carlcox@alaska.net>
USA - Thu Feb 1 2:26:59 1996

Source: I browsed your web site
I was actually planning on buying Digiphone. But after hearing about this suite from Camelot I will not purchase any of their products now or in the future. I suspect that they have made a very big mistake in taking such a stance. Given the Internet's world community attitude about "bullies" they may have suceeded in alienating the very market that they are pursuing! Well, I'm sure in the future they will be in the pages of the "early Internet history" books. They will be the company the "Internet community" boycotted and was forced to close...
Janice Statton <qblh@cyberatl.net>
Atlanta, GA USA - Thu Feb 1 1:37:46 1996

Source: email
I am fully behind Jeff in his defense of his action. Large companys are moving in on civil liberty on the Internet for the first time, see Domain Dispute http://www.gpl.net/
George Shaw <gshaw@spook.thegap.com>
Belfast, Northern Ireland - Wed Jan 31 19:31:38 1996

Source:
Since Creative Labs has released a frre Full-Duplex driver for the SB16, I would hope the losers at DigiPhone would give up the foolish fight. Being vindictive is going to only cost them more money, which they seem too only know how to get by suing, rather than creating product that works.
Eytan Bernet <ebernet@usa1.com>
Waltham, MA USA - Wed Jan 31 18:58:33 1996

Source: I got an email.
I've seen the O.J-trial on CNN so I think you don't have to worry at all.
Koen Teeuwisse <k.teeuwisse@student.utwente.nl>
7521 XN Enschede , Holland - Wed Jan 31 12:30:42 1996

Source: I was talking to a friend in the US and he said I should read what was going on. This is a frighting thing to happen.
I have been in a number of court cases while in business here in Australia and they can be costly. After reading about this case, I woukd not buy a anything from a company that acted like they act. GIVE THEM HELL !!!
Richard Tayman <rtayman@southwest.com.au>
Mandurah, WA Australia - Wed Jan 31 3:16:31 1996

Source: Via Netwatch link.
Enough crud from these FASCISTS! It is a tragedy when a corporation is willing to attack and frame an "individual" to cover their own inadequacies. This action has black-balled Camelot off my list of products to recommend. - Luckily Camelot is as bad at filing a suit as well as they code.
Jorge Veitia <jorge@inch.com>
New York, NY USA - Mon Jan 29 16:42:01 1996

Source: RESEARCH ON I-PHONE
cAN'T SEE WHAT YOU DID WRONG! yOU RECTIFIED SITU AS SOON AS AWARE OF PROBLEM!
Nick Pendrous <npendrou@bsa1.kent.edu>
Kent, oh USA - Mon Jan 29 12:30:14 1996

Source: Subscribe to mail list of Internet-Phone
Jeff seems innocent to me. What I would like to see is the copy-right (?) of the friver when it is loaded. Would it be possable to viewd in the lawsuit html pages ? Anton Damhuis South Africa
Anton Damhuis <antond@docnet.infolink.co.za>
Kempton Park, Gauteng South Africa - Sun Jan 28 5:56:28 1996

Source: You
This is the most outlandish misuse of the justice system that I have ever seen These people who wish to befriend the Internet community are making a huge mistake. If there is actually any justice in the world, Danny will leave yet one more bankrupt company in his ever widening wake. Best of LUCK Jeff, Phil
Philip R. Pasteur <ppasteur@interealm.com>
Denver, COc USA - Sun Jan 28 3:51:42 1996

Source: Mailing List
He didn't do anything wrong
Mark Guagenti <mgenti@evansville.net>
Newburgh, IN USA - Sat Jan 27 15:27:11 1996

Source: email
I will make sure that everyone knows about digiphone practices!
Brian Clayton <bclayton@erinet.com>
Kettering, Oh USA - Fri Jan 26 21:59:35 1996

Source: www.vocaltec's page
I wholeheartedly agree with all the previous (and later) posts, this is a blatent attempt to remove competition from an obviously inferior, bug-ridden product. I'll support Jeff, and intend to write DigiPhone a bit of a note. Hmmmm, maybe I'll send them a can of Raid as well... Stand tall Jeff, best of luck ~
Craig <cstal@val.net>
Los Angeles, Ca USA - Fri Jan 26 19:00:10 1996

Source: The 'Net
Camelot... It's the product, stupid! You blew it.
Sean O'Mahony <sean@coolware.com>
Palo Alto, CA 94301 - Fri Jan 26 13:14:27 1996

Source: A note in the NETTRAIN mailing list.
Can anyone think of a company that became successful due to a lawsuit? Lotus over PaperBack Software's VP-Planner? I can think of several companies that are successfully giving their software away: Netscape, McAfee...
Roger Barker <roger.barker@hints.com>
San Mateo, CA USA - Fri Jan 26 2:24:49 1996

Source:
Camelot does not understand The Internet
Edward J. Mc Ginley <edmcg@wb4aef.com>
Baldwin, NY USA - Thu Jan 25 17:43:45 1996

Source: email
I bought my copy of the DigiPhone from a CompUSA in Columbus, Oh. I have yet to make it work. Do you think it would do any good to return it? I think I will along with a note indicating how childish they appear to be over people merely speaking the truth! Best of luck Jeff.
John Carter <jectech@infinet.com>
Pickerington, Oh USA - Thu Jan 25 17:23:17 1996

Source: Bordwatch Magazine
Long live VocalTec.
Scott Duensing <sduensin@apci.net>
O'Fallon, IL USA - Thu Jan 25 14:10:56 1996

Source: email from Sandy Combs re the case
Well, he's more innocent than OJ... That's for sure. ;)
Steven Bielik <sbielik@pb.net>
Plainview, NY USA - Thu Jan 25 12:12:06 1996

Source: Email from members of the FWD group
Utter crap. I'll be happy to send you a check come payday. You seem to have been doing what a net-savvy person would normally do, posting info so those who wanted to could see it (thereby enhancing the attractiveness of Camelot's own product!), and have gotten slammed in response from a case of sour grapes for the consequences of their own incompetence as developers. Hang in there!
Kris Shapar <kshapar@ix.netcom.com>
Bethesda, MD USA - Thu Jan 25 6:10:45 1996

Source: Read it on the FWD mailing list to which I belong
I wonder what are Camelot's MOTIVE$$$$$$$ for this suit. Are they trying to make a scapegoat out of Jeff ?? Their Digiphone is an inferior product.
Peter Perez <ecuacom@aol.com>
New York, NY USA - Thu Jan 25 2:54:30 1996

Source: I subscribe to VON and Netwatch
It appears to me that you did exactly what they asked you to do in their first email. It does appear that they're doing this out of spite. I really can't see how giving out a driver is going to hurt their business. I could understand if the DIGIPHONE program was put on the site, but not for a driver. Good luck and I hope Jeff wins this one, actually I hope it just gets dropped, That way both parties will save face and can put this issue to rest. I do feel that this is just one of the first of this type of lawsuits we'll be seeing from the Internet in the next few years. I would be severly careful what I posted when it comes to files.
Jackson Windham <cyberelm@nol.net>
Houston, TX USA - Thu Jan 25 2:43:02 1996

Source: http://www.pulver.com/bootcamp page
Looks like Camelot is just looking for a way to recover its losses in not being able to produce a viable 'DigiPhone' product under the heat of executives and stockholders. After reading the entire contents of the http://www.pulver.com/lawsuit/ page, the scenario is obvious! 'Camelot' should be more concerned about getting its facts right before filing a frivolous lawsuit. Look at what happened to SEA's ARC after their lawsuit against PKWare and Phil Katz. They won their case, but do you see anyone using or buying ARC compression? I think not. This lawsuit will hurt Camelot thousands of times more than just 67 people downloading a driver that most of them probably don't know how to use... whether they win the lawsuit or not.
Bryan L. Gay <draco@mindspring.com>
LaGrange, GA USA - Thu Jan 25 1:22:32 1996

Source: Voice on the Net mailing list
As I state on my "Audio and Video via the Net" page, in my opinion this lawsuit is a really petty move on Third Planet's part. Not only that, but they make the claim on their Web page that they are "the de facto voice communication software for the Internet" (this claim is still being made on their page as I write this on 1/24/96), which is a simply not true given that IPhone and other products of this type presently have far more users, and there is no Internet standard for this type of software. Also, no driver that I have ever seen contains source code, so even though Jeff may have put the driver up for FTP, he apparently never even had the source code, contrary to Camelot/Third Planet Software claims. It appears that there is a serious credibility problem here. The thing to keep in mind is that this driver was actually available for FTP for less than 24 hours, and jeff pulled it immediately upon being notified of possible infringement. How many other companies would have sued in this situation? There is such a thing as an honest mistake. Jesus said, "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." (Matthew 7:2) So I hope the folks at Camelot/Third Planet who started this lawsuit never make an honest mistake, because if they get what they deserve, they will be shown no mercy whatsoever.
Jack Decker <jack@novagate.com>
MI USA - Wed Jan 24 23:38:32 1996

Source: From the Rocky Mountain Internet Users Group list.
Terrible tragedy! Corporate America Sucks, what more can I say?!
Ashima Saigal <asaig@hopper.com>
Grand Rapids, MI USA - Wed Jan 24 22:37:37 1996

Source: I'm a friend of Jeff's.
It's heartening to know the facts of this case are now available for everyone to see, and evaluate. Hang in there, Jeff. We're behind you 100%.
Lynda Meyer <lmeyer@nette.com>
New York, NY USA - Wed Jan 24 21:59:43 1996

Source: Iphone mailing list
Give'em hell Jeff! I hope the judge in the case determines the true reason they filed this suit and award you damages and legal fees. Good luck and keep your chin up!
Ken simms <ksimms@i2020.net>
USA - Wed Jan 24 21:45:03 1996

Source: Free World dialup mailing list
Good luck Jeff, cream the bastards.
Eric Anderson <Stalker@bsbox.com>
St. Ann, MO USA - Wed Jan 24 20:31:48 1996

Source: VON newsgroup
Based on what I read and my knowledge of the industry and technologies, this case appears to exemplify exactly what most of us hate about our legal system today. Camelot should be fined for filing a baseless suit.
Robert Marsh <Bob_Marsh@interactive.sony.com>
Monterey, CA USA - Wed Jan 24 18:23:24 1996

Source: The VON, FWD mailing lists
I fully support Jeff Pulver. Camelot has committed a terrible injustice to him by filing this lawsuit.
Henry Adam Bauer <habauer@eos.ncsu.edu>
Cary, NC USA - Wed Jan 24 17:03:08 1996

Source: Accident
I will not buy any product that contains a Camelot product until Camelot withdraws it suit, compensates Jeff for his legal expenses, and publicly commits to eschew the use of lawsuits as a means of abusing its competition and the press. Yes, that includes Netscape.
John Levin <jlevin@paonline.com>
Camp Hill, PA USA - Wed Jan 24 16:11:24 1996

Source: Just another way to cover up a bug ridden, poorly written piece of software!
Good luck Jeff! You have my full support! As an ISP I can appreciate what you are going through now, but YOU WILL WIN. Camelot is trying to save face with its investors, I have a secure feeling they will be history in a short time. Good Luck Gary R. Brown
Gary Brown <gbrown@adsn.net>
Corinth, Tx USA - Wed Jan 24 15:31:23 1996

Source: Via mail
That is a real pitty to see how creative guys can be barred by non creative ones!!
Philippe Ombredanne <pombreda@pratique.fr>
Courbevoie, FRANCE - Wed Jan 24 14:23:20 1996

Source: voice call with a friend
The pursuit of Jeff Pulver is IMHO not a reasonable fact itself. How could Jeff have known that the driver was a property of Camelot? If someone sends him that driver and he hasn't got the time, of course he asks other people to test it out. By the way, Creative made the same kind of driver publicly available already. IMHO, Camelot should have built a driver that works with Digiphone _only_. If not, how can someone know the driver is Camelot's property? And, will Camelot pursue Creative for having released a driver of the same kind? Please, let Jeff Pulver continue doing his work. He brings true new things to mankind. If you can't beat this (Free World Dialup), please join it and help us all to build a product that's worth while being used by people around the globe.
Sander Goudswaard <sago@dds.nl>
Wageningen, Netherlands - Wed Jan 24 14:09:08 1996

Source: On Email list of Iphone
I have written directly to Digiphone, I said SHAME,SHAME, SHame on you. I advised them that there was never any way I or anybody I know or could possibly talk to,write or have any connection with would be buying Digiphone. Is their not no 1 Freedom of your opinions in this country any more. their products much be inferior or they wouldnt stoop this low. This is the most unbelievable thing I have ever heard of I do believe. I don't have a lot of money but I will do everything I can to support Jeff. I would like to also get a hold of the CEO and officers list of Camelot. I also work for a major telecommunications co, have small import/export business and belong to several international groups with thousands of members and I will be spreading the word on this unbelievable unjustice. Connie Boswell
Connie Boswell <cboswell@ix.netcom.com>
Atlanta, Ga USA - Wed Jan 24 11:19:47 1996

Source: e-mail
I have no idea if he did it or not, but a little Sunshine into the court case would not hurt.
Edward Combs Jr. <combsjr@holli.com>
Peru, IN USA - Wed Jan 24 10:46:54 1996

Source: In the IPhone mailing list.
Camelot's lawsuit is obviously frivolous and misguided. While Jeff Pulver is certainly responsible for his actions (being careless about making the drivers available to the public), he is certainly not responsible for causing any damage to Camelot. By filing this frivolous lawsuit with false allegations, in apparent retaliation for unfavorable reviews by Jeff Pulver, Camelot has caused far more damage to themselves than Pulver ever could, even if they were to win this lawsuit.
Tom Held <tomheld@primenet.com>
Sierra Vista, AZ USA - Wed Jan 24 9:43:01 1996

Source: I subscribe to the FWD digest.
May this ordeal be over soon and in your favor!
Scott Weisman <sweisman@shum.cc.huji.ac.il>
Jerusalem, Israel - Wed Jan 24 8:13:46 1996

Source: Email
I'll be glad to chip in for the defense fund. Jeff appears to have done all that could be asked as soon as he was made aware of the problem. It is interesting to note the sort of attitude that Camelot Corp. has towards 'Net users. I gather the impression that they couldn't give a rat's arse about the Net community, just their own potential profits. I might add that this lawsuit will do more damage to those profits than any action of Jeff's. (Although maybe not as much as their dodgy product!)
Dave Readman <jaguar@werple.mira.net.au>
Melbourne, vVi Australia - Wed Jan 24 6:34:53 1996

Source: E-Mail from JEFF PULVER DEFENSE GROUP
Good luck Jeff
Marco Flury <flury@dial.eunet.ch>
St. Gallen, SG Switzerland - Wed Jan 24 4:54:28 1996

Source: Hints on the discussion list and later the public announcement recievied from Sandy Combs.
I would like to express a strong disbelief in the fact that Jeff Pulver is guilty of any misconduct. On the basis of information which I have access to, and the way that the whole FWD initiative has been run, I am strongly inclined to believe that the case against Jeff Pulver is made by a company which seeks to obtain some gains in this way, mainly because they have difficulties with obtaining them through the sales of their product, reported as unreliable by a number of independent reviewers. I would like however to hear the arguments of the other side as well, before I can make a full judgement. All the best, Wlodek Tych
Dr W. Tych <w.tych@lancaster.ac.uk>
Lancaster, UK - Wed Jan 24 4:48:49 1996

Source:
I'm not a lawyer but I'm convinced Jeff is in the right.
Claude RIVIERE <riviere@ibsm.cnrs-mrs.fr>
Marseille, France - Wed Jan 24 2:43:01 1996

Source: VON Digest and AP/UPI search hits
Put me on a jury. Well, nobody ever will. I'd see (and speak) the truth.
Craig Strickland <tgi@emi.net>
Tamarac, FL USA - Wed Jan 24 2:13:24 1996

Source: The VON email list
Unfortunately I cannot contribute to Jeff's Defense fund, but I will help in any other way possible. I feel that Jeff did not harm Camelot Corporation in any way, and that Camelot is pursuing its case because of Jeff's unfavorable review of their product.
John Walker <jpw@openix.com>
Morristown, NJ USA - Wed Jan 24 0:11:59 1996

Source: IPHONE E-mail Group
Seeing as how Jeff had no way of knowing the source of the file, and since he took immediate action to remove the file from public access plus notified everyone to delete the file because of that, I think this suit is frivilous in an effort to drive up the value of their stock. I haven't tried their product, and now probably won't even recommend it to any of my friends or customers.
Lee Besing <react@texas.net>
San Antonio, TX USA - Tue Jan 23 20:59:45 1996

Source: email from your majordomo
Jeff: Keep your chin up! How ironic! The president of Camelot saying you are a disgrace to the net! The guy couldn't tell a listserv from a usenet post to save his life! I hope you can use the same bs hype that they are using for your defense. Contact Wired, the NY Times, etc. and let them know you are being set up! I saw Camelot at Comdex and they are clueless about the net and net culture. I mean get real: they don't even know how to cripple their software for net evaluation! Keep up the good work you are doing in support of VON technology. This is a *CLASSIC* case of good against evil, and good always wins! Cheers and the best of luck --Ken--
Ken Hamel <hamelk@rtt.colorado.edu>
Boulder, CO USA - Tue Jan 23 20:43:11 1996

Source: E-mail
Get a working product or a life Camelot.
J Battles <jbattles@crystalball.com>
Dallas, TX USA - Tue Jan 23 18:52:46 1996

Source: email
mmm. found this on a newsgroup. it seems someone at Digiphone is already preparing for the worst... content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii organization: DigiPhone Corporation, Bryan/College Station Texas 409-693-8885 x-url: news://news/misc.invest mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: misc.invest x-mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; 68K) Yes, perfect credit can be yours. Bankruptcy, foreclosures - no problem. We have spent years compiling this information, lawyers and accountants don't want you to know. WE HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS! Now, you can too. We are Consumer Publishing Assoc. - the people's friend. What have you got to lose? Except your bad credit, that is. Send for free info today - it could change your life... ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ==========BANKERS AND LAWYERS HATE US!============ Latest SECRET insiders reports for credit and bankruptcy problems. Perfect credit is EASY! Get perfect credit now! For your FREE REPORT...E-MAIL ELENA AT...cpa@MYRIAD.NET ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Alex Balfour <mysore@dircon.co.uk>
london, uk - Tue Jan 23 18:47:40 1996

Source: Email
At Comdex I spoke with the CEO of Camelot. At that time Daniel informed me that Jeff Pulver was an agent for Vocaltec and was working with them and the review he had published was very biased. I really enjoy the outlook that Jeff brought to the VON technology outlook. It is ashame that a case of bad review would actually end up in a corporation sueing someone. I wonder if Digiphone had a glowing review would we even be discussing this. The other question is was there proper notice of copyright embedded within the code to make it viewable openily? If not then wouldn't the original uploader be the culprit as there was no proper notice shown in the code.
James Domengeaux <ace@phoenix.net>
Houston, TX USA - Tue Jan 23 18:46:18 1996

Source: Netwatch
This is another case of large companies feeling that they can control the playing field through the use of their money and lawyers. It is obvious to anyone that Jeff took action to preserve their copyright immediately upon notification.
Matthew Graves <mgraves@cblazers.ns.ca>
New Glasgow, NS Canada - Tue Jan 23 18:26:34 1996

Source: Internet
Another fine example of corporations perverting the justice system simply because they can afford to. Camelot is a mockery of American values. I suggest a counter-suit funded by ourselves for slander and libel against Jeff.
James Pulaski
Providence, RI USA - Tue Jan 23 18:08:27 1996

Source: email list
Outragious behaviour from an internet savvy organisation like Camelot. Netwatch is one of the bastions of free enterprise and an uncomprimising example of Net co-operation and information exchange. Do not let this deter you - this is perhaps the first of many hurdles that we may all face online in this new commercial era! Our staff at SunZine offer you their full support from Queensland Downunder!
Ian Wilks <livingonline@peg.apc.org>
Maroochydore, Qld Australia - Tue Jan 23 17:52:27 1996

Source: Via a Listserv, your listserv
It's the best one out there! Besides other internet-phone tools, I'm also against Bill Gates and Microsoft in General. ESpecially WIN95 and WIndows! Yech!
Philip Arnason <nhxr98b@prodigy.com>
Granite Springs, NY USA - Tue Jan 23 17:16:31 1996

Source: NetWatch and email with Jeff Pulver
Camelot are sore losers, they failed in technology and are now trying to do better in litigation. The fools,the fools, they've created a martyr in Jeff. See my letter to Camelot with cc to Netwatch.
Tom Foley <tomfoley@soho.ios.com>
Norwalk, CT USA - Tue Jan 23 16:54:01 1996

Source: Jeff's Home page
I fail to see why Camelot wants to spend the time or effort to prosecute Jeff, except to hurt Jeff where it hurts. In the pocketbook.
Jason Aarons <a-jasona@microsoft.com>
Charlotte, NC USA - Tue Jan 23 15:49:35 1996

Source:
I have also tried Digi Phone and told any number of individuals that I could not get it to work. When writing to thch support they always saig the next revision would fix the problem. I gave up and deleted Digi Phone.
Arthur Small <artsmall@logical.net>
Albany, NY USA - Tue Jan 23 15:39:28 1996

Source: Through E-Mail of: [Announcement]: Internet Publisher Says He's "NOT GUILTY" - Lawsuit Web Site Created To Prove It
I find very interesting and wish to learn more.
John Belche <socallme@netvoyage.net>
Los Angeles, CA USA - Tue Jan 23 15:31:08 1996

Source: I became aware of the case from an announcement by the Defense Team.
I believe that an individual is being personally legally attacked when he had no intention or knowledge that he was causing any dame to anyone. I strongly support what Jeff is doing and will help also through a donation. I believe that Jeff's review of the Digiphone product was an objective review. I personally have Digiphone, Internet Phone, and WebTalk. I have read many several articles on the various internet phone products and have not read very much good concerning Digiphone yet. However, I did pourchase it and will install it and compare. I, incidentally, have found the other two phone products too perform very well. Good Luck and we are all with you not just behind you.
William H. Little <bill1310@ix.netcom.com>
Vacaville, Ca USA - Tue Jan 23 15:09:13 1996

Source: Voice on the Net digest
Those Digiphone bastards don't like the truth, their product sucks! There is good free software (Speak Freely, Cyberphone)! This costs you no money and is totally free! Let's make lots of publicity to this case so Digiphone shuts up for good! Let's help Jeff bro's!
Joost vd Hoeven <joost@riv.nl>
Zoelen, GE NL - Tue Jan 23 14:51:52 1996

Source: Email as I was a subscriber to Jeff's email
I have no way of knowing if the 'driver' included source or not. However, in my years of experience source code is never given out as part of a driver. I would say that Camelot is backing themselves into a corner from which they will have very tough time to recover from. As for Jeff, it is sad that lose him to 'litigation' problems for awhile. I believe the best we can respond is not to buy Camelot products and make as many people aware of this injustice as possible.
Randy Vincelette <multisolutions@algonet.se>
SPANGA, Sweden - Tue Jan 23 14:44:13 1996

Source: Fron Jeff
I believe this case should be thrown out forthwith. It seems clear that Camelot think Jeff is an agent for Iphone, intent on stealing their corporate secrets. They clearly understand very little about the internet community. They also understand very little about building a legal case around solid facts. The response to the Free World Dialup Project has been very positive. There are many people out there who give their time to hepl exciting projects on the net. Jeff Pulver is one. He has spent thousands of dollars of his own money to get people arounf the world in touch. There are others who merely want to squeeze internet users for every penny they can, and are happy to tout shoddy products. I wish Jeff every success in his defense, and as soon as i can work out how to send some money, I'll put my money where my mouth is. Alex balfour
Alex Balfour <mysore@dircon.co.uk>
London, UK - Tue Jan 23 14:42:08 1996

Source: E-Mail sent to me.
I have tried Digi Phone and I was not happy with it I took it back, I see nothing wrong with some one giving reviews on a computer program. One should not be taken to court for giving a bad review. as for the driver that was on the ftp sight, if it was only on for a very bref time and was then taken off as soon as it was found that it was not share ware, then I ask Just what damage has been done? I so no way this could damage any one in any way. This should not even be allowd to go to court, its a waist of Tax payers money, I thought the goverment was broke? if so the how in gods name can thau afford to do crap like this??? jfarmer@awod.com
James G. Farmer <jfarmer@awod.com>
N.Charleston, SC USA - Tue Jan 23 14:23:45 1996

Source: E-Mail list.
this is a case which can easily be won by Jeff, but will tie him up for month if not years to come. Within that process he will loose the right to review any or all internet phone or related products, essentially accomplishing what camalot wants: SHUT UP THE CRITIQUES. As to IP and COpyright infringement, the owner of the driver should ensure a copyright line during loading, Jeff is a 3rd party recipiant of material and a pass through as is PSI which makes them less liable or I would not be suprised unable to be suit to beginbg with, but rather the supplier of the driver to Jeff is the real 'quilty' party here. As to the lawsuite itself, it seems to me to be an in-eperienced attorney based on the fact of incorperation place of bussiness etc. That is a none issue it all, and shows womewhat a lack of understanding the real leagal matter. SO Jeff good luck, stay with it. And as to PSI please applaud them for their decision not to disconnect! That would have been the real bad president!
Willem Scholten <willem@spl.org>
Seattle, WA USA - Tue Jan 23 13:49:05 1996

Source: Jeff told me about it.
Dude- This really sucks!
Christopher D. Kolb <ckolb@dna.com>
New York, NY USA - Tue Jan 23 12:07:22 1996

Source: From your Home page
Actually I find the suit funny in a way, as all the re the reviews that I have read have said that the program (Digiphone) is poorly written, full of bugs and should not have been released.
Steve Beasinger <steveb@xroads.com>
Queen Creek, Az USA - Tue Jan 23 0:04:31 1996

Source: Looking for info on NetPhones
Good Luck Jeff - Chin Up! Fight it head on - there must be alot of NET Lawyers who could offer up their advise!
Dave Thuringer <dth@inforamp.net>
Toronto, ON CANADA - Mon Jan 22 22:55:49 1996

Source: Jeff's FWD HomePage
Jeff: Keep on doing what you are doing now. Please don't let these bastards stop you. What you do is the right thing. Break 'em their necks! Christian.
Christian Schmidt <christian.schmidt@hamburg.netsurf.de>
Hamburg, HH Germany - Mon Jan 22 6:41:31 1996

Source: I am a member of FWD project and while I was browsing through Jeff's HomePage for the latest news I came accross with the legal battle Jeff's facing
Unfortunately you've been set up Jeff!..It is quite obvious that someone deliberately posted so called full duplex driver in question at your FTP site knowing you would distribute it over the net believing it was shareware. However under the copyright law the matter will not constitute a tort action unless the creator/owner of the driver in question specified same within the source code. It is outrageous...It is shambles...It is a smear campaign in order to save face for a product that's evidently failed even at its maiden launch!
Michael Scott <Michael_D_Scott@msn.com>
Melbourne, VIC AUS - Mon Jan 22 3:33:27 1996

Source: While getting Info on FWD.
Prior to reading, had no favor of I-phone over Digiphone. I guess that decision will be easy now!
Stephen Gornick <71531.3447@compuserve.com>
Minneapolis, MN USA - Sat Jan 20 20:48:25 1996

Source: Browsed into the world dialup/cyberphone d uring a search for net phone related stuff.
I'm very surprised to hear about the litigation you are facing. I sympathise with you, as a person without any LEGAL or COMPUTER background, just a regular 39 year old streetwise businessman, all I can deduce from the chronology and 3rd party evidence is that you have become a very unwilling party in somebody elses PROBLEM.
I can only deduce that: 1) SOMEBODY is trying to DRAW ATTENTION away from some SERIOUS INHOUSE TECHNICAL PROBLEMS that are obviously a threat to their financial(shareholder/investor) situation and credibility(market perception of technical competance
2) You must act fast and firmly as this might jepordise your Free-world-dialup project
Shame that you in the USA have to always be innocent partys in a feeding frenzy of lawyers and CORPORATE POKER PLAYERS!

I wish you all the best, don't let them get you FOR ANYTHING THAT YOU ARE NOT GUILTY FOR.
Foo-Jin Long <flong@pacific.net.sg>
Singapore - Sat Jan 20 14:18:20 1996

Source: I was told about the suit by the CyberScience developers. If the facts on your site are correct and complete, this is an outrageous example of corporate abuse.
Michael Goldstein <michaelg@voxware.com>
Skillman, NJ USA - Sat Jan 20 13:15:29 1996

Source: NetWatch.
Doesn't sound to me like any real damage was done. Sounds more like a case of "How can I make some quick money" in this "sue happy" country that we live in. I think it was "Prime Time Live" a few weeks ago that ran a peice on lawyers & frivolous lawsuits, & how some people earn a living suing everybody in sight. Solution: Change the system to "loser pays all" Anybody else see the show??
Paul Zora <kd4sox.gate.net>
Fort Lauderdale, FL USA - Sat Jan 20 9:27:46 1996

Source: Homepage.
This sounds like absolute bullshit, if I had *any* fundage at all I'd devote as much as I could to Jeff's defense fund.
John W. <jborg@adnc.com>
San Diego, CA USA - Fri Jan 19 5:54:25 1996

Source: On NetWatch.
Camelot's legal action sounds like 1) a legal smokescreen to direct attention away from the evidently premature, bug-ridden release of DigiPhone, and 2) an attempt to receive free advertising for the product and subsequent updates. The attack upon Mr. Pulver and his service provider indicate that Camelot distains the free and open discourse of ideas upon which the Internet currently thrives. As Pulver's prompt action upon initial contact from Camelot's legal representatives shows, he was innocently (and appropriately) posting what appeared to be freeware or shareware. If a tort has been committed, it was by Camelot for failing to adequately denote copyright within the code. This is a disgraceful, disgusting sham.
Doug Adams <scribe@inav.net >
Iowa City, IA USA - Fri Jan 19 0:39:22 1996

Source: IPhone list.
I have subscribed to the IPhone list maintained by Jeff almost since its inception. Jeff has been a very valuable resource and net-friend, even once posting my web page at his site at no charge! I suspect Camelot allowed the alleged source code to be posted to Jeff's ftp site, thereby initiating the legal battle in an attempt to mar his and Vocaltec's reputation. I know that Jeff had no intention of violating copyright. He is too visible and not that stupid. Give us a break!
Miles Lott <milos@electrotex.com >
Thu Jan 18 23:37:06 1996

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